39027. You have given us here an introduction. We will read the introduction first: 'As secretary appointed by representatives called together specially for the purpose'-representatives of whom, may I ask? - Of the various Nonconformist churches that are mentioned.

39028. Is it Nonconformist churches of all denominations? - Yes, of the Rhondda Valley.

39029. Not only the four that we have called the four great ones-the Baptists, the Congregationalists, the Calvinistic Methodists, and the Wesleyans-but more than that ? - The five; I give them on the front-the four and the Primitive Methodists.There is only one small Unitarian church, and it did not send representatives. They had an invitation.

[Two according to my book. And why exclude them simply becausde they did not send a representative ?]

39030. So your representatives were of the four denominations I have just mentioned, plus the Primitive Methodists? - Yes.

39031. At that time the new statutory Methodist Church had not been formed? - No, not at that time.

39032. The United Church? - No.

39033. The constituents of that United Church were not included amongst the representatives? - No, there are none in the Valley.

[The United Methodist Church]

39034. So, another limitation that you add is 'in the Valley'? -Yes.

39035. The representatives in the Valley of the four great Nonconformist denominations, plus the Primitive Methodists? - Yes.

39036. These representatives were called together by some voluntary movement of some people in the Valley, or was it through the action of the Central Evidence Committee? - One of the ministers in the Valley undertook voluntarily to call them together for a meeting.

39037. I may take it throughout then, that you are quite independent of the Central Evidence Committee? - Independent in the collection of our evidence; we had a little advice, that is all.